Subject	probably has more aggressive cams
Posted by	Marshall on August 20, 2003 at 4:17 PM
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In Reply To	why is the torque so low? It differs from the hp by over 100 (n/m) posted by robbase9 on August 20, 2003 at 03:15 PM
Message	They make the engine breathe better up top. Also, those turbos are pretty big, so they spool slow but are capable of flowing a lot of air (if you have cams that'll allow the engine to breathe at the rpm's that the turbos need to put out good boost) You wouldn't want to have really big turbos and stock cams. Need everything to work together.
Follow Ups	Bitter sweet day at the dyno today -------> - Kyle(Houston) 15:01:06 08/20/03 bummer sorta - nixit 15:11:03 08/20/03 Well...it is what we expected---> - Kyle(Houston) 15:21:18 08/20/03 oh my. looking forward to it! (n/m) - nixit 15:39:10 08/20/03 So which clutch are you going to use on it? - ZHOUND 16:20:50 08/20/03 It is up in the air right now----> - Kyle(Houston) 17:45:22 08/20/03 thicker head gasket or change pistons? (n/m) - wickdGSXR 16:47:27 08/20/03 Damn! Give me that motor, beefed up auto, and a 1/4 mile... (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 15:12:23 08/20/03 Yea... What Arnel said. (n/m) - CatDaddy(OKC) 16:34:11 08/20/03 Have U made a pass this year? You're not on my '03 list yet. (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:02:25 08/20/03 No.. Working too much. - CatDaddy(OKC) 21:21:34 08/20/03 why is the torque so low? It differs from the hp by over 100 (n/m) - robbase9 15:15:09 08/20/03 It is not "tuned" yet....see my response to Nixit..... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 15:21:58 08/20/03 It's basic physics >> - ChristopherTheOne 15:26:58 08/20/03 Basic physics or how stuff works lmao :) - gtclk 16:34:10 08/20/03 I wrote that freehand... >> - ChristopherTheOne 22:22:48 08/20/03 probably has more aggressive cams - Marshall 16:17:19 08/20/03 what's the date on that SCC mag?? - takirb 15:17:56 08/20/03 Feb 2002? - SactoTodd 15:52:45 08/20/03 "through the SCC Street car challenge a year and a half ago" - Borg79(ON) 16:27:09 08/20/03 help me with that math - SactoTodd 16:40:54 08/20/03 Any no NOS charts? - Chip(GMS Racing) 15:21:30 08/20/03 Not yet..but I can tell you that at 19Lbs of boost they ---> - Kyle(Houston) 15:25:16 08/20/03 Does tuning mean a 8200+ Redline now :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 17:16:38 08/20/03 Nope....he is on an old motor----> - Kyle(Houston) 17:46:21 08/20/03 Same here. 1.5 bar isn't much for them. - TwinTurboPete 00:28:35 08/21/03 Sweet!! I can't wait till your next run! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 15:24:24 08/20/03 Great stuff! (n/m) - SeedyROM 15:29:57 08/20/03 That is some real power:-) Good job:-) I have to freeze my > - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:51:33 08/20/03 Kyle said they *didn't* freeze them on this car (n/m) - boileralum 16:02:49 08/20/03 100% correct....we probably could have gained 80-100 Rwhp--> - Kyle(Houston) 16:11:55 08/20/03 :-) I never said he did, but just mentioned it:-) (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:42:02 08/20/03 freezing the IC is ghey imho - aliaZ (IC Nazi) 16:30:32 08/20/03 makes your balls bigger - genic 16:41:04 08/20/03 No shrinkage theory? :) (n/m) - Black Mammoth (VA) 16:42:52 08/20/03 Not FMICS, but freezing :-) (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:51:43 08/20/03 I agree, but a lot of people think, that they will make - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:56:17 08/20/03 Poor Wagz....short lived record ;) (n/m) - Black Mammoth (VA) 16:13:59 08/20/03 haha...not exactly (n/m) - NR98 (next year) 16:31:42 08/20/03 Do you know the numbers? :) (n/m) - Black Mammoth (VA) 16:35:54 08/20/03 z cars exsist with much more than either of them - genic 16:40:17 08/20/03 Right...but I was thinking a record for US Z32s..am I wrong? (n/m) - Black Mammoth (VA) 16:42:07 08/20/03 honestly...no idea. probably close - genic 16:46:05 08/20/03 Some1 needs to maintain a new site: www.z32dynocharts.com :) (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 16:52:48 08/20/03 300zxclub.com, has something like that under 'rides' - Janders 17:13:26 08/20/03 they never post ones that are submitted...that site sux (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 18:13:26 08/20/03 local here just picked up some GT30 Turbos =c) - CaptanZap 18:37:00 08/20/03 very true, I know of many over 800RWHP in Japan..but - BooZTT (Hawaii) 17:12:07 08/20/03 um how bout on a stock bottom???? (n/m) - Wagz 17:22:31 08/20/03 Some are priveledged other are not. :) (n/m) - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 16:43:45 08/20/03 He said XXX. (I was hoping XXXX)... (n/m) - SooperZ95 17:18:33 08/20/03 no, i never said i was hoping for XXXX, my car is not - Wagz 17:30:52 08/20/03 No, I was hoping for XXXX, lol... -----> (n/m) - SooperZ95 21:03:26 08/20/03 ...and I can't wait til Friday. I'm sure the #s are amazing - SooperZ95 21:09:50 08/20/03 yes, my best #'s were quite a bit higher than 600 (n/m) - Wagz 21:43:13 08/20/03 hahaha....not with TD05 16g's....you were dreaming (n/m) - NR98 (next year) 17:39:45 08/20/03 yes he does (n/m) - Wagz 17:30:05 08/20/03 lol....don't tell them that...now I'll get a mailbox full of - NR98 (next year) 17:41:36 08/20/03 may be out tomorrow on the Sport Z site anyway! (n/m) - Wagz 17:46:16 08/20/03 "unfrozen" intercoolers, no NOS. - SactoTodd 16:43:33 08/20/03 oooouch (n/m) - genic 16:45:14 08/20/03 hmm...lets see - NR98 (next year) 17:09:35 08/20/03 Your #2 is the same method used on Outlaws 741rwhp run (n/m) - John@Z1 17:36:57 08/20/03 As John posted, "freezing the I/C" is just spraying it with - Chip(GMS Racing) 17:54:54 08/20/03 correct...this is what it looked like when we sprayed mine - Wagz 17:57:13 08/20/03 You cheater! - Chip(GMS Racing) 18:13:36 08/20/03 u know me!! :) - Wagz 18:41:43 08/20/03 Yep, see ya there. Hopefully my car will be there. (n/m) - Chip(GMS Racing) 10:40:57 08/21/03 TD06-20G's are pretty beefy turbos.. - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:15:23 08/20/03 Yeah, the TD06s are good for over700rwhp, or actually close - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:18:45 08/20/03 Yeah they weren't even starting to flow right----> - Kyle(Houston) 18:46:05 08/20/03 my top dyno # was obtained w/ only a 60shot of NOS to - Wagz 17:28:19 08/20/03 i havent lost anything yet :) (n/m) - Wagz 17:19:39 08/20/03 and lets keep in mind im on stock pistons/rods & only - Wagz 17:21:17 08/20/03 What happened to your built motor???-----> - Kyle(Houston) 17:48:36 08/20/03 lol bad usage of words i guess....i meant brand new rebuilt - Wagz 17:49:46 08/20/03 Yeah his motor is going on 3 yrs old :-/......... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 17:54:29 08/20/03 well w/ that logic, mine is 1.5 yrs old at this point (n/m) - Wagz 18:11:34 08/20/03 thanks 4 the info btw, i corrected it (n/m) - Wagz 17:54:34 08/20/03 Are the Pistons Nissan??........... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 18:04:54 08/20/03 yes, i have nissan 0.020 over pistons that have been swain - Wagz 18:11:03 08/20/03 Coolio....thanks for clearing that up...... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 18:14:27 08/20/03 sorry bout that, i had put that info in like a year ago - Wagz 18:17:50 08/20/03 Kyle that is not a fully built engine. Read the specs. - John@Z1 18:01:39 08/20/03 wow...and he was even using SMIC's (n/m) - aliaZ (IC Nazi) 16:33:47 08/20/03 AND 3" pipes... ;) - LordZ 16:44:14 08/20/03 i was making a post about it; - nixit 16:46:55 08/20/03 hehe me too. but i like stiring the pot. (n/m) - LordZ 16:48:53 08/20/03 With TD06s YOU need 3" pipes. The outlet on the turbine is - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:57:48 08/20/03 LOL, I've already said my peace on this......lol (n/m) - ZBlacktt 17:20:25 08/20/03 Obviously not... ;) (n/m) - LordZ 18:01:00 08/20/03 So! ;) - ZBlacktt 18:09:14 08/20/03 Want a General post too :) - ZBlacktt 19:18:57 08/20/03 It has it's place...just not on near-stock/mild turbo - SeedyROM 19:24:22 08/20/03 stock? mild? does that sound like me? :) - LordZ 21:15:09 08/20/03 Since he was using NOS, it is OK:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:47:54 08/20/03 Correct ;-)....... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 17:49:19 08/20/03 He doesn't live too far from me and that car is C-L-E-A-N! - P Rock(OH) 16:43:23 08/20/03 2nd...nice car....whole lotta money into that bad boy (n/m) - NR98 (next year) 17:13:22 08/20/03 Yea, but after that showing in SCC in 2002 looks - ZBlacktt 17:34:25 08/20/03 I have been through this before....He had 0 seat time ----> - Kyle(Houston) 17:51:46 08/20/03 LOL, yea that was me you where talking too back then :) - ZBlacktt 18:05:58 08/20/03 great #'s my friend, nice to see some big #'s hitting - Wagz 17:21:56 08/20/03 Did not Bryan make like 576rwhp on pump gas and 1.3 bar with - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:23:02 08/20/03 Very different turbos and headers. (n/m) - ZHOUND 17:36:15 08/20/03 and different cams, valves, head gaskets,...etc....etc..... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 17:53:05 08/20/03 574rwhp @ 1.25bar, A/F 11:1, no NOS or freezing IC - kuah@splparts.com 17:41:04 08/20/03 The hp and torque seems low at 19 lb of boost. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 19:40:08 08/20/03 Hmmmm---->>> - Kyle(Houston) 21:43:50 08/20/03 C12 is leaded fuel, correct? Was Wags done on unleaded? - NSANY(ATL) 08:07:59 08/21/03
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